To all the haters…?
Posted by adminMar 16
Do any of you think about the families that would be ripped apart if every illegal were to be sent back? All the children who would lose their mothers or fathers? My stepson is without his real mother (a white American citizen) right now because she is locked up in federal prison for trying to smuggle 70 kilos of cocaine over the border. His father and I are all this little boy has right now. If his father did get sent back to Mexico, where would the child go? Foster care? Just another face in the system? Before people round up their mobs and torches and go immigrant hunting, think about the innocent victims in all of this. And for a country who is supposed to be all about family values…..
Some people seem to have misunderstood me. In no way am I condoning what the mother did. In fact I hope the crazy bitch rots in prison for what she did. She never even tought her son the colors or how to hold a pencil.
Also, when does crossing the border (albeit illegally) put you in the same category as murderers and rapists??? Just like our ancestors (who did not have papers or greencards, either) thay are trying to make a better life for themselves and their families.
41 comments
Comment by SweetPea on 03/16/2011 at 5:46 am
Ok I thought about it, sucks for them! They parents shouldn’t have broke the law
Comment by walterdisney on 03/16/2011 at 6:40 am
Don’t ALL people who break the law risk being ripped away from their families?
Comment by infobrokernate on 03/16/2011 at 7:34 am
To work in this country undocumented workers must:
-Forge documents
-committ identity theft
-break immigration law
We can’t support everyone in the world.
Comment by B.Kevorkian on 03/16/2011 at 8:13 am
I do think about that, and I think it’s a very important issue. It would be wrong and inhuman to hold a deported couple’s children here in the US.
Let them go home with thier parents, by all means, even if that means acknowledging the parents’ right to repudiate thier children’s American citizenship.
Comment by V Theriault on 03/16/2011 at 8:41 am
You’re new arent ya?
Comment by VastRightWingConspiracy on 03/16/2011 at 9:34 am
I sympathize with the innocent victims of the enforcement of laws. Are we to allow drug smugglers, murderers, and rapists to stay on the street so that we do not hurt their innocent children or to keep their families together? Laws need to be enforced or society falls apart. Maybe we should put the blame of the ripped apart families where it is due, the people that are committing the crimes.
As for families ripped apart due to illegal immigration, of course we would allow them to go back to their countries with their families.
Comment by MIX208 on 03/16/2011 at 10:16 am
You make a great point, but most of these bigots dont think about those issues . . .
EDIT: Yup. . keep hating, truth hurts don’t it?
Comment by Chance20_m on 03/16/2011 at 10:18 am
I’m sorry, but that argument just isn’t valid. Almost every person we put in jail or deport is affecting a family, sometimes tragically. That doesn’t mean you don’t enforce the law. Illegal immigration fosters a new age slavery.I’m surprised more of my fellow liberals fail to see that.
Comment by ezwider on 03/16/2011 at 11:16 am
Do you think about the families of legal immigrants that are already ripped apart? Waiting patiently to be reunited… Now they can wait even longer, because we should put criminals before law abiders….
Comment by david b on 03/16/2011 at 12:07 pm
A real parent teaches the kids between right and wrong, this child seems to be around all the wrong influences. If the parents are sent back to Mexico a real parent takes the child and does things the legal way not wrong way. What are they teaching these kids?
Comment by Latina mami. on 03/16/2011 at 12:53 pm
I agree with you, but these people only see about money, this county is about money. So therefor you really think they care. they don’t understand the situtation at all. Try living over there for a week. They don’t have money to come here legaily since there is not money to being with. I agree with you girl, but not a days people are only about themselves and there money.
Comment by Sweetpea on 03/16/2011 at 12:55 pm
I’m sorry, I cannot have any sympathy for people who knowingly break the law. I will not reward them either for this behavior. They should have been thinking a little further ahead themselves. Yes there will be people hurt, but I really don’t care any more. I’m tired of paying for them.
Comment by fortyounce95 on 03/16/2011 at 1:03 pm
yo yo yo yo yo no i dont think about them
Comment by me2 on 03/16/2011 at 1:55 pm
How about taking some reasonably for ones actions. The little boy could stay with you, or would you rather saddle the tax’s payers with the cost of social service than make a point that we are mean selfish people. Why are family values are only important on the USA side of the border. When illegals leave families behind that is acceptable, but when they are called to account for their illegal behavior, they fall back on the family ties. Nice touch about the American, white mother that is a doing time, is that just to remind us that we not only heartless and but criminals as well.
Comment by hexador04 on 03/16/2011 at 2:16 pm
They shouldn’t have come illegally in the first place, they did it to them selves.
Comment by ducky on 03/16/2011 at 2:55 pm
“innocent” ??
this kid comes from a family of Drug Smugglers and you call them “innocent” ??
Come On ! Couldn’t you find a better example of people we should feel sorry for.
70 Kilos of Cocaine – that means she is (was) a major criminal who most likely was raising her children to be criminals as well.
Comment by Sounds of Ed's football game on 03/16/2011 at 3:22 pm
if they come in legally they have nothing to fear. If they break the law then they always know that someday they may get sent back. Why not just come in properly then life will be good, forever.
Good luck to you
Comment by anarchy0029 on 03/16/2011 at 4:18 pm
Damn, what a good question. I agree with your thought. You have pointed out some of the ignorance of others. However, more than likely they will probably send the child to Mexico along with his. Unless, her family is in the states, and agreed to take care of the child. The child will stay in the U.S.
P.S. I understood your question, next to alot of people.
Although, the mother was in the wrong for a crime commited.
You stated something I knew many people would probably overlook. I seen the answers so far.
Comment by steddy voter on 03/16/2011 at 4:58 pm
I don’t mean to sound callous, but that is the risk one assumes when they choose to cross a border without proper documentation. OF COURSE I feel really bad for the kids involved – they can’t help their parents’ actions. But, the fact is, no one is forcing people into our country at gunpoint. If a person chooses to break a law, then they better be willing to face the consequences of their actions. And, shouldn’t a mother be more worried about the welfare of her child than smuggling cocaine? It seems to me that was a choice she made. Maybe you should see if you can get legal guardianship of this child?
Comment by fireball226 on 03/16/2011 at 5:02 pm
my daughter has a mexican husband so if theyre married to our citizens then they can have amnesty….single ones go back
Comment by Trollbuster on 03/16/2011 at 5:56 pm
Why do you tag only Americans as being “haters”?
Why don’t you impugn their own governments and officials for not doing something constructive for their own citizens and well being?
Why is it incumbent on the American citizen to foot the bill for everyone?
Comment by The funny thing is.... on 03/16/2011 at 5:59 pm
it sucks and it’s not fair to the kids, that’s why the parents should be smarter about it!
SIMPLE: you don’t want your kids taken away? stop coming here illegally!!!!
Comment by David C on 03/16/2011 at 6:30 pm
Lots of children would end of being the victims in this, but their parents broke the law not the people who feel the laws should be obeyed, not the law enforcement officers, not the judges, not the politicians, not anyone but the parents.
So why are law abiding citizens “haters”?
Your anger over your situation is not probably part of the use of that word, I don’t want the innocent to be hurt, but everyone who breaks the law should be punished, from the traffic ticket to the illegal immigrant to the mass murderer. No distinctions should be made or you are on one huge slippery slope.
Comment by Nicholas R on 03/16/2011 at 7:29 pm
Come here legally or go home. You don’t have any rights in this country. OUR CONSTITUTION DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU!
Comment by yousedummy on 03/16/2011 at 8:06 pm
Ummm…. How about back to Mexico with his father?
Comment by Greg B on 03/16/2011 at 9:04 pm
It is about family values, and about personal choice. All of the people you described who chose to make very STUPID decisions have to take responsibility for their actions and pay the price. You cannot not take the moral high road when you begin your argument with ‘I know they are illegal but…”
Have a great day
Comment by devil_fish_88 on 03/16/2011 at 9:55 pm
Did the mother think about the life of the other families by smuggling 70 kilos of cocaine???
Comment by carly on 03/16/2011 at 10:44 pm
The little boy has a father. If the father gets sent back to Mexico, little boy goes with his dad. Why would he go into foster care if he has a father????
Oh , wait… you mean the dad would just abandon him and leave him behind? Then he woud stay with you, unless you put him in foster care yourself.
Comment by soldier_for_life93 on 03/16/2011 at 10:47 pm
He shouldn’t be here illegally, period. If he gets sent back, that’s his problem. He shouldn’t be here illegally.
Comment by raymond t on 03/16/2011 at 11:01 pm
I agree with you, but we can’t accept a barrel of rotten apples for a few good ones. A better resolution needs to be found.
Comment by John S on 03/16/2011 at 11:18 pm
The illegal aliens should have weighed all the risks before they broke our laws and entered this county illegally. When a bank robber goes to jail, sometimes innocent people suffer, such as his wife and children. If we felt sorry when criminals go to jail, no one would ever go to jail because innocent people almost always are involved. It is NOT America’s fault that people put their families at risk by entering our country illegally. NO AMNESTY!
Comment by Balsabulb Y on 03/16/2011 at 11:27 pm
I stop thinking about credibility once the LAW IS BROKEN! You should of thought about that before YOU BROKE THE LAW!
“real mother (a white American citizen) right now because she is locked up in federal prison for trying to smuggle 70 kilos of cocaine over the border”
ENOUGH SAID FOR YOU LAW BREAKERS!. If those 70 kilos had of made it to our borders….how many of our other citizens would of been impacted by your what ever????
IL-legal and just want your butt’s out of our country. PERIOD!
Comment by kbel k on 03/16/2011 at 11:52 pm
You are a typical Liberal. I am a hater because I don’t agree with you. I am a hater because I live in a country that says it is a “Nation of Laws” and I expect them to be enforced. I have compassion for people, but I try to think with my head and not my heart.
I did not put these people in this position, they did it to themselves. They knew that sneaking over the border was against the law and they choose to do it anyway. I understand why they did it, but the fact remains that it is against the law in just about every Country on the Globe.
Why do you not call Mexico haters for their treatment of illegals from Central America. We are outright sweet compared to what Mexico does. In Mexico they quickly arrest them and deport them and they don’t care what the circumstance is that brought them.
These illegals put themselves here and they are responsible for their actions. Why are they not held responsible for their actions? Why should America shoulder the burden of a country like Mexico ? Why should we pay the check for Mexico and take all of their population in?
We should be deporting all of them. We should make an example for future law breakers. We need to send a message that we don’t want you here unless you follow the rules to achieve your goal. That is fair.
Comment by Thunder.45 on 03/16/2011 at 11:58 pm
Momma should have thought about the time (and the kid) when she did the crime, the child should go to Mex. with it’s Daddy, when momma gets out she cane figure out what to do next!
That family is already broken bad case to site send the illegals back to what ever nation they came from, and send their family with them!!!! Problem solved!!
Nicholas R…..:Thank you I was starting to think I was the only one left aware of this FACT!!!!
Comment by Rubbertech on 03/17/2011 at 12:39 am
I don’t hate. I am truly sorry for them, the children are innocent victims of the crimes of their parents. Not the United States! they knew they were breaking the law. They knew the consequences of their actions. The US has been delinquent in enforcing the laws and it may seem unfair to suddenly say OK now we are going to enforce the law. It has to be done. They do not have to be separated, if it was my child I wouldn’t leave it behind. We are for family values, we are for parents who don’t commit crimes against our country. What you folk’s dint want to deal with is the fact that what they did was AGAINST THE LAW.
Comment by don c on 03/17/2011 at 12:51 am
Families are ripped apart when parents committ crimes and are sent to jail.
i.e. if you are a drug dealer and get caught and go to jail
your family suffers who’s fault?
if you are a rapist and get caught and go to jail
your family suffers who’s fault?
Illegal entry into any country is against the law
if you get caught and go to jail
your family suffers who’s fault
In all the above cases, it is the fault of the law breaker.
unfortunately law breakers bring unwanted consequences upontheir families—————just a fact of life
here are more facts
Here are some facts you should know:
40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.
95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
Over 2/3’s of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.
In L.A.County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L.A.County).
(All 10 from the Los Angeles Times)
Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops but 29% are on welfare.
http://www.cis.org/
Over 70% of the United States annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration.
The cost of illegal immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was a NET (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay) $70 BILLION a year, [Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University].
The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE .
29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens
Tomatoes and Cheap Labor
This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent
From a California school teacher – - -”As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:
I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income levels.
Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens , Huntington Park , etc., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.
Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I’m not talking a glass of milk and roll — but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America . (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them “Putas” whores and throwing things that the teachers were in tears.
Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc., etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?
To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.
Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc, etc. For me, I’ll pay more for tomatoes.
We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won’t have the guts to enforce it.
Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?
There are many hardworking Hispanic/American citizens that contribute to our country and many that I consider my true friends. We should encourage and accept those Hispanics who have done it the right and legal way.
It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about “politically correct” that we don’t have the will to do anything about it.
If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know.
CHEAP LABOR?
Isn’t that what the whole immigration issue is about?
Business doesn’t want to pay a decent wage.
Consumers don’t want expensive produce.
Government will tell you Americans don’t want the jobs.
But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase “cheap labor” is a myth, a farce, and a lie. there is no such thing as “cheap labor.”
Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an “earned income credit” of up to $3,200 free.
He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
He qualifies for food stamps.
He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
He requires bilingual teachers and books.
He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.
If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer’s expense.
He doesn’t worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.
Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.
He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.
Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his.
The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.
Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people. THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. ‘AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON’T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!’
THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON’T CARE.
Comment by bytchy_princess on 03/17/2011 at 12:59 am
and…..
Comment by monkeypox on 03/17/2011 at 1:10 am
‘What about families here that have to deal with dirty illegals hanging around corner stores drinking and pissing on walls or all the taxes we have to pay to support them or having to wait 20 fukcing hours in the emergency room because these cheap illegals go there when they a get tooth ache, what about American citizens. Why dont you go to mexico and help them with their problems if you love them so much!!!!!!!
Comment by Marisa N on 03/17/2011 at 1:26 am
well, um – I am a white American citizen married with a son to an immigrant. EXCEPT he is a LEGAL immigrant and we have paid $$$$ thousands in fees and waited years….we paid every last cent of our taxes and signed legal documents with the US govt that we would never seek Medicaid or unemployment or welfare (I am his sponsor so its my duty to support him). We had to go through grueling interviews and show massive amounts of documentation. Years later, they are still doing a ‘background check’ on a man who never even jay walked or farted sideways.
So I don’t have any mercy for druggies, smugglers, terrorists, tax evaders, illegal immigrants, gangsters, or sex offenders….or for that matter – anyone bad in general.
My ancestors fought and died in countless wars to make this country a better one to live in from the one they originated from.
What contributions have the illegal immigrants made?
They are coming here in the guise of night and breaking our laws. They have babies we have to pay for…and then those babies go to school that (again) we pay for. Then they get free medical care- which again we pay for. Then they get old and again we pay for their care when they are infirm. When they break the law- again we pay for their incarceration. When they molest and rape – we can’t track them because they aren’t traceable. They don’t pay into Social Security, Medicare, or State/Federal taxes. They even make our car insurance go up by driving uninsured. They have made us include their language in our everyday life (funny how we don’t have Hindi or Polish or Italian or German as second languages- all of OUR ancestors assimilated.)
AND on top of all that…..there’s 12 million of them demanding amnesty!
When the current system cannot clear LEGAL immigrants like my husband—how are they going to check and clear 12 million?!!
Please someone tell me…I’m REALLY curious.
And as far as family values- anytime you try and tell someone how a ‘family should be’ or family values…you end up not being politically correct, offending people, and getting sued.
And speaking of “family values” – why don’t you, the child, AND the husband go over to Mexico? Then nobody will be separated and the problem is solved. The further the kid gets from the mother – probably the better off he will be as she sounds like a lousy parent and a poor excuse for an American.
So there you go- 5 star answer.
Comment by arrington7530 on 03/17/2011 at 1:36 am
They should think about that before they break the law ….especially to come to America ILLEGALLY!!!
Comment by animal_fan802 on 03/17/2011 at 2:35 am
So you think it’s great to have illegals in our country using working American Citizens’ tax dollars to get medical care, housing and food and of course let’s not forget Social Security benefits??? That’s great…let’s just toss our hard earned paychecks up in the air for all the illegals to drive new cars and live in nice homes while our true American citizens struggle to pay their bills with the money they make working LEGALLY in OUR COUNTRY! There are too many American Citizens that have to chose between their medications or food, food or gas to drive to work or even food or electricity while illegals are sucking up all the benefits that should be for the US Citizens that need and deserve them. Personally, my family is not wealthy and we do not get any type of government assistance. We have to pay for our medical insurance and co-pays and the bills that follow. We pay for our food, utilities, house and cars. We pay for it because we work legally in the U.S.A. and are U.S. citizens born and raised. It’s not fair for our salaries to be taken from us to support people that don’t belong in our country. If we break the law, we go to jail. If they break the law, why are they not punished??? As for the children suffering…take them with you back to where you came from!